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I am talking about both the original (1938 design) and the 1944 sketchy design 1.  How would the 1938 design have fared against SoDak or Iowa (assuming Iowa fights as well)? 2.  How would the 1944...

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spiffingchap wrote:alecsandros wrote:spiffingchap wrote: So recalculating the figures for the muzzle energy at 30,000m, again with Lion normalised to 100.0: SoDak 16" Mk 6 - 118.4 Lion 16" Mk I -...

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The numbers I have posted are real physical quantities; albeit expressed as ratios, they're energies that can be directly measured. Assigning some coefficient essentially by 'feeling' just corrupts...

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... IIRC, USN technical mission to Japan noted pretty good things about the heavy 460mm guns. They had very good range, and rate of fire for their size. However , the dubious thing about it were the...

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No, it is near impossible for a shell to hit both armor belts. Moat likely it will fall at 20* or more, thus hotin one belt or portion of deck and then simply going through the ship and bemeath the...

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Chuck731 notes that IJN AP shells had a delay up to 0.4s.What is the reference for this? Is there any proof (not anecdotal or subjective 'I thinks') that the IJN actually used an AP delay this long in...

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MarkLBailey wrote:Chuck731 notes that IJN AP shells had a delay up to 0.4s.What is the reference for this? Is there any proof (not anecdotal or subjective 'I thinks') that the IJN actually used an AP...

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alecsandros wrote:No, it is near impossible for a shell to hit both armor belts. Moat likely it will fall at 20* or more, thus hotin one belt or portion of deck and then simply going through the ship...

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Where on earth had US BB's tapered belts near the bottom? Sources please? Weather North Carolina nor South Dakota had deep belts compare to other BB's, with their inline inclined belts.

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Matrose71 wrote:Where on earth had US BB's tapered belts near the bottom? Sources please? Weather North Carolina nor South Dakota had deep belts compare to other BB's, with their inline inclined...

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The deepest belts, from primary sources had Yamato, KGV, Vanguard and BS/TP, you should measuring the complete height of the main belt!The german main deck was below any other BB ever built in WWII ,...

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Iowa and South Dakota had belts as deep as yamato, they reach all the way to the ship's inner bottom. You can't get deeper than that. Neither Bismarck, KGV, nor vangard had anything close to that....

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Matrose71 wrote:Where on earth had US BB's tapered belts near the bottom? Sources please? Weather North Carolina nor South Dakota had deep belts compare to other BB's, with their inline inclined...

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Chuck731 wrote:alecsandros wrote:No, it is near impossible for a shell to hit both armor belts. Moat likely it will fall at 20* or more, thus hotin one belt or portion of deck and then simply going...

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Neither Bismarck, KGV, nor vangard had anything close to that. They had a deep main belt, but nothing that came close to the bottom. Below they only had a thin torpedo bulkhead below their belt,...

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alecsandros wrote:Chuck731 wrote:alecsandros wrote:No, it is near impossible for a shell to hit both armor belts. Moat likely it will fall at 20* or more, thus hotin one belt or portion of deck and...

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.. Dear Chuck, All your questions have answers in topics already existing on the forum. For the velocity loss and input/output angles you can use Nathan's calculators. The 20* falling angle is to be...

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alecsandros wrote:.. Dear Chuck, All your questions have answers in topics already existing on the forum. For the velocity loss and input/output angles you can use Nathan's calculators. The 20*...

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The lower Class B belt is not a smooth taper, and is sloped at 19 degrees.The lower belt is 12.2" thick backed by .875" STS at the joint with the Class A belt. It then tapers to ~11.7" thick at a...

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ikeda wrote:The lower Class B belt is not a smooth taper, and is sloped at 19 degrees. The lower belt is 12.2" thick backed by .875" STS at the joint with the Class A belt. It then tapers to ~11.7"...

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alecsandros wrote:ikeda wrote:The lower Class B belt is not a smooth taper, and is sloped at 19 degrees. The lower belt is 12.2" thick backed by .875" STS at the joint with the Class A belt. It then...

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